NDES & DECEPTION/MANIPULATION

Wayne Bush


NOTE: All NDEs are from NDERF.ORG unless noted otherwise.

Jeff: Do you feel like that place was some spiritual place, heavenly? Or do you feel like it was some kind of like manufactured mechanical place and these beings were controlling you and sending you back?

Phil: Yes, I felt like it was the this, what we call the soul trap… I looked at where I was as the soul trap and my best inkling of where I was at was in a queue going back to reincarnate and it was a mechanical process, like you said, and it was um it's something where they take spirits and you go somewhere and somehow I guess you're processed to where you have to if you were to reincarnate as someone else it would make sense that you would have to give up your body, lose the shape and form of your body… of that line or that queue that I was in going to I thought it was going to the Moon something to do with the moon cycle and reincarnation. -- Phil [from an interview with Jeff Mara: He Went To The Soul Trap During His Near Death Experience]
Once again on the flower meadow I said, that I would love so-o-o much to stay in heaven, and asked, if there wouldn't possibly exist a 'speedier process' for me? Andreas promised to let me eventually decide myself. Of course, I knew that it was a trick. He would only let me decide when it would be clear that I wanted to remain on earth. But, nevertheless, it comforted me. -- Franziska R
I saw the Light approach, I was enveloped by the light and an entity that was to prepare me for what I call my Interview with a supreme being later in the Light. This first being appeared to be the Virgin Mary. Only after asking, "Are you truly the Virgin Mary it instantly manifested true identity. I was nearly paralyzed with fear until again asking "please, what is happening to me what is going on here?" -- Robert B

This is when I was called, and returned to the blue place in which I started, where the Angel Gabriel said to me: "Miguel, you have to go back, there is a mission for you to accomplish". I said to him: "No, brother, I'm not going back, I'm here now and I'm not about to move from here, I'm not leaving". He said, "You have a wife and children". I replied that I did not remember them, and he made a gesture with his hand, and a seated woman appeared, on a kind of white chair, praying and weeping, holding my diary in her hands. I drew near, saw her and said to the Angel: "Now I remember her, she is my wife". He asked me if I wanted to see my children, and I said yes. With another gesture of the hands he took me to a really poor district, with unpaved streets and mud. I was taken near a bus-stop, where there were grey concret storm-drains. We came to a house under construction, or unfinished. The floor was of earth, the walls had no covering (without any finish), the bath also half finished and on the patio there were two children playing, covered in mud. Following another gesture, I approached them and could see that yes, I recognized them, they were my children. The angel said, "You have to go back", to which I replied, "No way, now that I'm here, I'm not going back there". I said, "What if the next time I don't end up in this place, better to stay for good, no point getting here if I'm going to leave". At this moment I heard a strong, loud voice, speaking in a very special way, with love, affection but also with authority, which said to me: "Miguel, you must go back". I looked all around me, up, down, left and right, but no one had spoken to me. Then I asked "Who is speaking to me?" And I again heard this voice saying to me, "I am the true and faithful witness, you have to go back". I said, "Jesus?" and he answered, "Yes, you must go back". I said, "I'm ready, Lord. Thy will be done". -- Miguel RP

This soul was told they were the only one that could do whatever it was that needed to be done:

"Why me?" I said... 'It' said to me with a sad reply, "Your the only one that I have found strong enough to deal with this pain, You share the same feelings that I have felt, the feeling of loneliness, the feeling of being not noticed, that's why I have chosen you, From here on out you will never forget this moment, and others will never realize the true meaning to life, only you will understand life and only you can hold my existence."

Here is another person who was told that no else could do it what needed to be done:

I asked and I said, 'I’d like to stay.' They said, 'Maybe another time, but not now. You have a mission to do on the Earth and you must do it. No one else can do it but you.' I thought about it and I said, 'Ok. I’ll do it.' My mission is basically to share my story down here on the Earth, to tell everybody that they are love too. I told the light body that I would do my mission. It said, 'We will be in touch once more.' -- Steven L


This person was asked if they would come back as a favor:

Finally - Jesus told me that if I was going back I had to go now or I would be too damaged. I stepped backwards to reenter 100%. He asked me if I would do favor for them by carrying on the Energy work I had been doing. I agreed. Then I was back in my body and I could feel an electric shock through my body. -- Carmel B


He told me:'' I want you to go back on earth; there is something I want you to do, after you will finish it you will come back here in heaven and live here forever.'' I said: No, I want to stay here.'' He said, No'', just go back, I said NO'' I want to stay here, till He spoke in a cool voice and convinced me to go back on earth. -- Mukurarinda

Sometimes flattery is used and they are told they have a very important mission:

I didn't seem to fully understand what she was telling me. But, I enjoyed the loving feeling she was giving me. I seem to be decoding and understanding what she told me more as time goes by. I will try to put into words what she told me. She told me that I was very special. She told me that I had a very important task to fulfill in this life. She said I would go through some hard and difficult lessons but that I would come out OK. She said I would touch a lot of people's lives. It didn't come in words like that or in separate feelings. It seems difficult even now for my brain to comprehend it. -- Michael D


I looked up at my benefactors and found that they were dressed in Black gowns and had a screen over there faces which if you looked closely at had a mirror like substance that reflected your own image back at you. -- James S
I was then suddenly rocketed out of my body and I could see myself on the surgery table. The doctors were all scrambling and I thought to myself, 'Why are they acting like that? I feel great.' I was then pulled upwards from my body. I thought, 'Well I guess this is it, good-bye body.' I was then taken into a tunnel by an individual made of light. I had seen the individual before the anesthesia was given to me. When I first saw this being, I thought, 'Who are you?' No answer came at that time. Nor did an answer come while I was led through the tube of light. Then, I was inside a void with the mysterious being. I asked this being, 'Who are you?' And the being said, 'Who do you want me to be?' The being then took on my mother’s voice and said, 'I can use this voice if it makes you comfortable.' When I declined, the being switched voices again and talked in my deceased grandfather’s voice. -- Neils W
During your experience, did you gain special knowledge or information about your purpose? Yes I am incarnate to usher in the new paradigm for this beautiful planet. I am new here. I have no karma, and that is why I was not supposed to bear that child. The child would have weighed me down to this place energetically. It was an experience set up for my near death experience, which enabled me to remember my mission. If I choose to have a child I can, but I still want my creation in this lifetime to be helping to save humanity. -- Robyn
At last, light is seen ahead. It is not the light of heaven, it is the lure of hell. -- Private Dowding
Did you see a light? No Describe: beyond that- that's a false "projection" THEN I WAS ALONE, & FROM FAR OUT IN THE DISTANCE WAS A GIANT RED "BLOB"-- YOU KNOW THAT MOVIE, "THE BLOB"? THAT'S WHAT IT LOOKED LIKE, & WHAT IT WAS, I COULD "SEE & EXPLAIN IT " BECAUSE I WAS FULL OF ETERNAL LIFE-JESUS. BUT THIS BLOB THING I KNEW AS ALL OF "CREATION" ALL MUCKED TOGETHER, JUST WANDERING AROUND- IT CONSISTED OF ALL INTERMINGLED TO THE POINT OF LOST IDENTITIES, ALL GLOBBED TOGETHER, JUST WANDERING AIMLESSLY, LOOlKING FOR SOME KIND OF "FOOD" TO KEEP IT GOING, BUT IT WASN'T GOING ANYWHERE, BECAUSE THE MOST WORST PART OF IT WAS IT'S "FEELING" OF LIFELESSNESS--- THERE WAS NO "SUBSTANCE "TO IT FOR IT TO EXIST...BUT THE LIFELESSNESS OF IT WAS IT'S WORST HORROR...AND THERE I WAS- FULL OF REAL ETERNAL LIFE (JESUS; NOT "JESUS CHRIST- OR ANY "RELIGION, - JUST "JESUS" & THE BLOB TRIED TO APPROACH ME & IT HAS NEVER BEEN...NOT EVEN CLOSE... -- Janet P
How do you currently view the reality of your experience: Experience was probably real The only thing that pus any doubt into my mind is that possibility that Satan can simulate the love of god and lure people into deception (that's what people say anyway). so yeah i was in two minds about it for awhile there but was relieved to read this: -- Skeeter
In the far distance, he saw what looked like a small area of green fog. His spirit turned horizontal and started moving towards it until it formed into a meadow with wild flowers and small trees. It was bright daylight. He was thinking, "This must be Heaven and I'm here because I've tried to be good to people. But then he started moving faster until the meadow was left behind him in a blur. As he looked ahead, he saw what looked like the Grand Canyon, but instead of the end of it being an open-ended river bed, it was round and surrounded by huge brown boulders. He was no longer near the beauty of the meadow. He found himself out in the middle of the boulders floating over a great expanse of blackness below. He couldn't see the bottom – looking down, all he could see was a huge black hole. As he was wondering what was going on, he began to hear a sound like the wind. This wind got louder until it sounded like high pitched screams. One voice stood out, and he heard from below someone pleading..."Please! When you come, bring me a drop of water!" Then he knew that he had been tricked by Satan into thinking he was going to be in Heaven. Instead, he was on his way to hell because he didn't know Jesus as his Savior. But right at that time, the doctors brought him back to life. -- Glenda G
I am lying on my stomach on the sand. One of my friends pushes the rest of water out of my lungs. I cough out the water, but the intense pain remains. This time the pain is different and permanent. It’s the pain of being separated from the Light. I don’t know why I’m so sad? I don’t even know what I have just experienced? But I do know that all of the warmth, beauty, and love that was infused in my soul, I can no longer feel. The Light has played a devious trick on me. The Light allowed me to expand and become one with the universe, and then rammed me back into my frail, earthly body. At the time, it seemed like a very cruel experience to put me through. I was very angry at the Light. -- Andrew P
At some point God told me, “You must go back to earth.” I refused then, no way I should go back into that sick body, then God showed me a vision of my mother who cried because I was dead, then I came back. -- Leonard
Then in my head I heard my grandchildren say you must go back and take care of our sister. I walked toward them and looked down and saw a bed by it was my living granddaughter and my wife. -- Quenton T
Then the voice of my father said I had to make a decision. I started to search my thoughts as to why I should stay here, and why I should return to earth. I heard my father say there was much work still to be done with my family. Suddenly I realized I did not want to stay here. -- Kim G
With a flash of light I was in a lovely little farm cottage and was sitting by a log fire as my Gran told me I was in the world of Spirits. It seemed like I was with my grandma for ages when she told me I must return to earth as it was not my time. -- Charmaine
I asked if I could stay because it was so beautiful there and I didn't want to come back to earth. The light being said, 'No, you have a mission that you must do.' I didn't know what the mission was but I said 'Yes' to returning back to the earth. -- Steve L
As I was like obstinate to stay and didn't want to come to earth again, GOD in a kind of telepathy, put two pictures inside my mind, they were my children, two boys...and told me their lives will be a disaster without my presence, guiding and love. So, with no hesitation, I came back. -- Maria SV
I WAS AWARE THAT I NEEDED TO RETURN TO MY BODY AND TO EARTH AS THAT POTENT VOICE COMMANDED ME. I FELT VERY SAD COMING BACK. -- Maria N
I wanted to stay in the world of love, peace, and light, but they reminded me of my responsibilities back on the earth. I argued and refused to return. They told me that if I don’t return, I won’t be able to achieve certain spiritual capabilities which I would have received had I gone back to earth. I still didn’t want to return and would rather stay there. Finally they showed my parts of my future and how if I returned it would affect many other people and help them to see the Light. When I realized how much my return to earth would help others, I could not wait to get back to earth. -- Mohammad Z
Then she looked back at me and said, "Roy, you have to go back to Earth; there's been a mistake. I'm sorry, but you will have to return. You'll be back someday, I promise." -- Roy S
At that moment, I have the feeling to be in a court of justice, but instead of our dull judges, nameless, faceless, genderless, light beings are just there around me. This feeling was only short lasted as a wise and mature voice then told in my hear, “Why do you want to end this way, didn’t you offer to fulfill this mission yourself on this planet? Did you forget the purpose of your coming to earth? Did taking shape and living among them made you sink that much into oblivion?” Oddly, that voice was familiar to me, but not from my living experience. Far in my dreams maybe? In my furthest recollection, I could not find memory of a man talking to me this way. “You must go back to where you come from. Your time has not come.” said to me another, somewhat sharper voice. “Who do you think you are, that you want to decide your fate?” did utter a voice on my left, more hostile than the previous ones. “Take it easy, don’t forget that his mind left our world for a long time and he may be altered by all those centuries spent in the other world.” claimed the entity who took me out from my celestial ascension. “But you cannot remain among us, you chose it, you must complete it of your own will.” did she say. “But what mission are you talking about? I don’t understand anything to what you are saying, I don’t want to go back there. This loneliness is too deep and agonizing! You are going to answer, tell me what this mission is, who you are, who am I?” A voice outmatching the meeting group instantly settled the matter, no one would have even wanted or thought of whispering or sighing, “You’ll understand in due time, no answer would content you. Let time act, be strong, don’t doubt and you will know. Answers will be given in due time, it is up to you to capture them. Nothing is given for free to the knowledge keys keeper.” -- Pascal C
After I told him that I was happy for not feeling myself so narrow in my body, that I was no more frustrated, not hating, not in jealousy, meaning all those earthly human feelings, he explained to me that it was not the moment for me to be there, and that I had to make a return back to earth into that body..... This council was led by my grand-father. There I was shown my past life, I had access to the purpose of my life. This council was organized only with the goal to come back to earth, something that at that time I didn't consider at all. Then they started to show me the life of my children without me and they showed me the life that I would be living when coming back to earth; my children would be happier, a professional life more in accordance with myself, a craftsman trade, creative, independent. After this they finally convinced me of a necessary return, for the following experience and the well-being of my children. -- Frederic M
I heard, or thought, a voice that said, 'It is not your time; you may remain if you wish though.' I thought through my life and wanted to stay, but then I thought about my daughter who was 8 at the time. She needed me. -- Jacob
He explained that I entered into a contract with the creator and I must live up to that contract or face the consequences. He ended the whole speech telling me that I knew what I was getting into, I knew the risks and complications, and that I had been warned. My only choice was to go back and finish what I started. I didn't get a word in edgewise. -- Jeffrey C
Then he gave me the choice, and I chose to come back because he reminded me of what we spoke about before I came to earth and that I was not finished. I then basked in his love a bit longer and then came back to earth and he has never ever left my side. -- Elisa R
At this point, I could sense that it was time for me to go back to earth. Looking at God, I said "Please Lord, can I stay?", Hush, He would say, your time on earth has not been completed. Now, go off and be a good lad for there is much more for you to learn. -- David H
know I was shown more than this, yet the words kept ringing in my ears "you will not remember the things you have seen, you will not remember the things you have seen...." It was like coming out of a fog, a deep sleep, and all the time I was trying to hold onto the many scenes as I could, but felt them slipping, slipping, slipping.... -- Mike W
He asked me what I would like to do? Stay there or go back to Earth? I said "I didn't know what I was supposed to do there (Earth) He told me "Love and have fun" I said "that's it?" I said "I do, I love everyone." He said "I know you do." Smiling at me so kind and full of love. He seemed to say it like he was proud of me. I was thinking to myself..Well, no one likes me there. He said "Yes they do." I said "They do?" thinking well, they have a funny way of showing it. I said "But, no one loves me." He said "I Love you!" I said "You do?" He held me close holding on to my hands in front of him close to his chest. He said "Yes, I do." We just stared into one another eyes some more. Both of us full of love for one another. I could stare at him forever and never turn my gaze. I asked what was on Earth for me if I went back. He told me he has like little presents for me strewed across this lifetime for me. He told me about all the animals that he had for me. He told me about how much they loved me. I said "Animals can love?" He said "Yes of course they can!" He showed me my life in the future if I were to go back. It played out on the see through wall that was overlooking earth. I saw myself happy and laughing so much. I just wanted to be that happy. Because I was so unhappy while I was on earth. -- Sarah W
Suddenly I realized that the bright sun in front of me was the shiny moon and that the red sun had the moon safely under control making in fact one sun. This was the message that the sun had wanted to get across. Then the being of light wanted to talk to me on a man-to-man basis. He placed me on top of a high mountain where I had to sit on a large piece of rock. I asked him why he had wanted to destroy me, and he told me that there existed also evil but very powerful and cunning beings who were his enemies with whom he had been constantly fighting. He also told me that I had to warn my world against them, and I automatically nodded in agreement. He said that his enemies had wanted to play a trick on him by using me as a kind of trap, but he had to defend this world and the black one. His world, however, would be much easier for him to defend, because the evil beings had no power in it and he had no power in the black world. -- Guenter W
I can connect with nature so that I can ask the wind to help me see the full moon by parting the clouds and it will happen. More often the spirits play tricks on me. For example when I was in the middle of nowhere in Montana about to run out of gas and I asked for a gas station. Immediately there was a gas station but it was closed! So I asked for an open gas station. In a few minutes there was an open gas station but the first few pumps had no gas. Oh, come on! -- Gwen J
Experience was probably real I do not know if it was real or it was just a construct of my brain to ease me into death and it could be an illusion or a trap. -- Kyal L
I initially believed that during this experience, I had been in the presence of God. But over the years I had some real struggles, wondering about which being – God or Satan – had been its source. I cannot prove which one it was, but I do tend to believe that in this case, it was God. (To this day, I am very careful about not being misled by false prophets. I know the difficulty that people have with correct discernment when influenced by spiritual beings. -- R.A
It was in darkness, like the black of night, with faint lights or textures zooming by, or rather, I was zooming by them. I remember at one point going in an arc motion, like around a bend. It seemed like a very long gradual arc. The arc shape travel was the most memorable of this travel, it was the most dramatic, it's like when you go around a corner hard and your pushed towards the outside. Either around a left shaped arc, or right, it was not all straight travel. It was sort of like a tube due to the speed, like tunnel vision, there is no way to describe how incredibly fast it was. But it was very fluid and smooth, not at all jarring, and no vibrations...only speed and at least one arc. It was a ride and I wasn't in control of anything. I was wondering what was happening, I knew it was happening, but nothing like this has ever happened to me. The feeling is that you are being taken somewhere by something. I was very surprised. It didn't seem to last long, but due to the speed it seemed to take forever, as though your aware of what a great distance you're covering. I went a great distance. It was like I was strapped into a smooth but fast amusement park ride in a dark tunnel and all I could do is watch as things unfolded. I had no clue as to what was going on because it was completely new. All of the sudden I'm being taken somewhere very far and very fast - where and how am I going?...

Religions teach of a false god that is not the true God of the afterlife, but probably a demonic entity in itself, who they pose as the true God...

THIS IS NOT GOD! This is the description of fear and darkness. God is not a demanding blood thirsty bi-polar control freak bent on balancing some 'sin balance sheet'. Pressure does not originate from him. Pressure is fear based which originates from darkness. God is supreme and not a petty spy. He isn't a vigilant behavioral scientist accountant or a karma thought police with a penchant for revenge tantrums. And he is not represented by the two-faced liar strutting around a church-house. What a racquet. Could you imagine having this advantage in your personal life? If you don't do things my way, that means you're overtaken by a demon, and you risk the wrath of an angry god who may then allow the Devil to give you cancer...even though He wishes He didn't have to allow it, He simply has no choice, you forced His hand! How convenient for our rulers. Talk about a tormenting trap. This is spiritual enslavement, that forces one to live in an altered state of consciousness, as well as a spiritual cesspool of confusion. -- Paul
Then something happened that I would never, never forget. Love, pure, utter love came pouring down on me along with incredible warmth. My whole soul or being was immersed in this love. He lifted me up and gave me a kiss on my mouth. This being of light loved me deeply, infinitely deeply, and more and more intensively. I was happy! I could have stayed in this beam of love forever. If my story had been a lie, the being of light would have annihilated me. I had a clear conscience anyway, so there was no reason to fear anything. Gradually the loving became weaker and I felt that something was wrong with me - something that made it very difficult for the light to continue with his love. He was trying not to tell me why. Finally, however, he was not able to keep it up any longer and he quickly said:" You have a smelly breath" and "You need a bath." I received the impression that I would have to take a bath similar to that I was used to on Earth, but by dipping the whole body. It was made plain to me that this process was going to be unpleasant, but I could stop it when it became too painful for me to bear." "I thought to myself:” This scoundrel of a voice! He has betrayed me by forcing me into this world. There is no way back! This is final! Hopefully, I will be able to breathe and not suffocate to death.” Therefore, I tried to breathe, but I soon found out that no breathing was necessary. I simply could exist. As long as I was in the black world, I had never thought about breathing." "I asked him why he had wanted to destroy me, and he told me that there existed also evil but very powerful and cunning beings who were his enemies with whom he had been constantly fighting. He also told me that I had to warn my world against them, and I automatically nodded in agreement. He said that his enemies had wanted to play a trick on him by using me as a kind of trap, but he had to defend this world and the black one. His world, however, would be much easier for him to defend, because the evil beings had no power in it and he had no power in the black world." " -- Guenter W

[Note: At the end he declares the light being is Jesus.]


I felt this "fire" coming form behind me and I whirled around to see a man with black wavy hair and black beard, all short cropped and dark well tanned skin. His eyes were like diamonds sparkling under light and his robe was like a monk's robe except it was bright white and glowing. I could see it flowing around him with visible eddies and currents. This being smiled at me and I was instantly filled with love, so much love I felt I would explode from it. I could not contain it. I've never felt so adored. This being communicated directly with me with thoughts, no words were ever used. He told me this was an accident and I go back, IF I wanted. I told him by my thoughts there was no way to make that body work. It was squashed flat. He basically told me that he could make it work again. Did I want to go back? I wanted to know my options. What would happen if I chose to go back and what would happen if I didn't. No sooner did I think these thoughts and BOOM, I was hit with a package of images. It showed in brief what would happen if I didn't go back. I saw my sister get into alcohol and drugs and her life spin out of control ... BECAUSE I wasn't there. I saw my Dad commit suicide because of my death shortly after my mom divorced him over the matter of my death. I saw my paternal grandfather wither away and die, his heart broken over my death and my dad's suicide. There were twin blows that destroyed all the joy he had left in life. The effects went on and on, my mom was sad and heart broken the rest of her life and so very lonely ... And I saw a parade of faces of people I would never meet and whose lives I would have impacted and whose lives would have impacted mine but now I would never know any of them and they would never know me. The man in the white robe had me with my sister. I've always loved my little sister and for her alone I would have chosen to come back but seeing all that pain it would cause everyone else ... mom, dad, grandparents, friends, cousins, aunts, uncles ... man I HAD to go back. Then came a second package of images, those of what would happen IF I went back. I skipped over the obvious. Dad DIDN'T commit suicide. My sister turned out Ok. Mom ended up happy. My grandfather went on to beam with pride over his firs grandson to attend a university. My grandfather was a legal immigrant from Italy who never made it past the 4th grade and he treasured education beyond EVERYTHING. He crowed like a proud rooster when his kids graduated from high school and I became the first of his grandkids to attend a prestigious university. But what I focused on in this second package was what I would pay as a price for going back. I knew that I would walk again, that all I had lost would be restored but only temporarily. In my latter life, perhaps 10 to 15 years after the accident, I would suffer pain, extreme pain and it would affect me the rest of my life. I chose to come back. He smiled, as if he KNEW I would pick the harder path because of how I felt for my family and friends. There was a snap and a pop and I was back in my body. It was FILLED with crackling electricity like sounds and feelings. I had no breath, no air and this huge rock was choking off all air. I grabbed the small end of the tear near my nose with my one free left hand (my right arm was pinned under the rock) and rolled the thing off me like it was made of paper mache`. -- Michael Joseph
I felt relief. I felt that this explosion released my struggling soul. My soul could now roam around where ever it wanted without obstacles. I felt complete freedom. I was now free and didn’t need a passport to cross boarders or move around the earth. I could even roam around the universe, but I didn’t want to leave Earth so I wouldn’t feel lonely. I was flying very easily. It was not a dream. The feeling of flying was very real. A being that looked like the Joker (from the card game) approached me. He was very friendly and gentle. He was my guide as I traveled. He directed me to the way to Brazil. I had always wanted to see Brazil. I arrived there very quickly. I was roaming above a heavy forest area as I suddenly felt another explosion in my heart. I saw myself on my bed. I was breathing violently and my heart was beating very hard as if it were knocking on my ribs. At that moment, I realized my breathing had stopped for a long time. -- Yamen
Then I realized that whatever thought came to me, I could make that happen. Suddenly, I could see mathematical calculations in multi-dimension, describing how everything works in the universe - magnetism, density, light, color, energy, etc. It was just fabulous. I was really enjoying it. Then I thought that I would like to be able to take it back with me and it was as if my mind tricked me because instantly, I realized that I had pledged to return to earth. Immediately, I did not want to go. I wanted to stay. -- Marie E
Then I was picked up by "the loving arms of the Father." He called me by my real name (which means "little monkey full of curiosity and rebellion) and I recognized him as "my GOD" with whom I had "played" so much. What happened next is so personal that I will only refer to the ending, needing to say up front that when I lied I knew that He knew, but I tried anyway..."so let's see, are you ready: do you love man kind?" ME: yes HIM: more than yourself? ME: probably... yes... in theory yes. HIM: so much that you would give up your life? ME: yes... yes unconditionally! HIM: we haven't understood one another... Do you love me? ME: so much that I would stay for eternity. HIM: so if you love me and you love man kind as much as you love me go back, and my Will be done for their goood! There, he tricked me for the good of all!! "The problem with arguing with Him is that He is always right!" I thought, but he heard my thought and together we laughed our heads off (I don't know how else to describe it). I hadn't chosen: either back on earth or away from there, and the latter didn't please me. -- Stella
I turned up at this really bright bush garden type of place and I hadn't felt that good in my life or since next thing my granddad turns up and told me I had to go back I said no way in the world am I going back there you've got to be joking then two other blokes turn up and they had a sort of talk about it (they weren't talking it was like mental telepathy you only had to think it) Anyway they kept hassling me to go back in the end they said there is something you have got to do but they wouldn't tell me what that was, I think they tricked me because as soon as I thought about going back I was back. -- Ross D
But when I got to the round circle at the end of the tunnel where I would have entered into the light, I got a big surprise. Standing in the circle with legs apart and arms reaching out toward me was a very bright multi-colored figure, almost like a cartoon character and similar to the Joker on a deck of playing cards, but with a big smile that for some reason was more comforting and gentle than scary. He gently caught me in his arms and said to me, "Back to the womb," as he turned me around and gently tossed me back down the tunnel. -- Edie F
I looked at the man. He was looking off in another direction. When I looked at him he turned a bit and faced me. Our eyes locked in a gaze for a couple of seconds, then he started walking towards me. The man was extremely intense looking. He was Caucasian. Had long brownish / dark hair, to his shoulders. His eyes were really, really intense. He had very chiseled facial features. He looked like a cross between the Joker of Batman fame, and illustrations we see of Jesus Christ. He was wearing an overcoat. Not a big man, about the same size and build as me - 5'11", fit and trim, slight build; not a real big guy. He walks towards me.... I stand still as he walks closer. He gets right up to me and grabs me. We proceed to wrestle, for a very long period of time. We physically wrestled. On the ground. Just like an extreme sporting event. He was a superior wrestler than I. Although I gave it a valiant effort, he was a bit faster, a bit smarter. Sometimes I would have a bit of an advantage, but he would quickly reassert his dominance. My thinking during the wrestling is I am wrestling for my life. If I lose I will die. Not that he was mean, just that the wrestling is so powerful and the stakes are my life. He never said anything. In my mind he was in control the whole time. I was physically exhausted and was wondering how much longer I could last, then I finally broke free from his grip. At the time I broke free I felt an immense sense of relief - like I get to live! But at the same time I "knew" that if had wanted to I would not have slipped away. I stood up, several feet away from him. He stood up also, looking at me the whole time. No facial expressions, just those deep, penetrating eyes and chiseled face looking at me. -- K.C. R
Belonging. I moved so that I could quickly get to the light. But before I made to the door one of the sentinels grabbed me and held me fast. The doors closed. Next I found myself in some kind of courtroom. Before me sat an unbelievably stern all-powerful yet very kind judge. Absolutely incorruptible. Duty and person were one and the person didn't exist without the duty. I sat on a bench and near me was a friend or defender. Great love emanated from him. Was it Jesus? The judge asked me: What are you doing here? I was overcome with fear and wanted to wake up but that didn't happen. I thought about it and remembered that I had wanted to die. At the same moment that I knew this, so did the judge. I felt his mercy and it was like balm for my soul. I realized he wasn't at all angry. I learned how to distinguish between power and anger. The judge thought for a while and said: But you have a mission. In this moment I saw all the people (of my era?) with their unique destinies as a great mosaic, and my destiny was intertwined in that mosaic. The harmony of all these destinies together was amazing. I knew that if my own destiny failed then the harmony of the whole would be destroyed. I knew that I had to fulfill my destiny. The shirt was closer to me than the jacket. I did not want to return to the hell that is the reality of being on earth. But the judge determined in his objective way: You must go back! -- Attila P
I think I am still stuck in the life review part sometimes. I haven't been the best person and have sinned a good bit. I feel like I am supposed to realize that I am my own worse enemy and I need to forgive myself and move on. My Grandfather was my judge in the experience and he told me to come back and honor my father. -- George W
I was aware that I could communicate without speaking and that I could know all that I wanted to know. There was a feeling of peace and calm, unlike anything I've experienced since. Then came a judgment of sorts, where I was judged on the things I had done and the things I would do in my future life. This upset me as I felt it was mean to punish or judge me for things I hadn't done yet. I wasn't judged on big things, more small instances of intent. It was the little things that mattered and not the big things. Then I was told that I had to go back, which didn't make me happy at all as I knew that being alive would hurt.” -- Gail
Experience was probably real I don't know what to think about it today... Because nobody has been able to give me an answer to my questions: What happened? Can you explain in a rational scientific way why I felt that way? Did my unconscious play a trick on me? -- Annie
It was awhile before I shared it. It sounded crazy. I'm not really sure anyone believed me. I was talking about something they had never considered or believed in. In my church, an experience outside of God was demons trying to trick you. -- Jamie W
It is hard to ignore the subjective nature of near death experiences. No two people have the same experience. It does not seem to be based solely on expectation as some Christians who felt they had been saved went to hell and some notorious people had a pleasant experience. But the consciousness does seem to play a major role. Here is an interesting experience from Mellen-Thomas Benedict who was able to stop the experience mid-point:

"As I began to move toward the light, I knew intuitively that if I went to the light, I would be dead.

So as I was moving toward the light I said, "Please wait a minute, just hold on a second here. I want to think about this; I would like to talk to you before I go."

To my surprise, the entire experience halted at that point. You are indeed in control of your near-death experience. You are not on a roller coaster ride. So my request was honored and I had some conversations with the light. The light kept changing into different figures, like Jesus, Buddha, Krishna, mandalas, archetypal images and signs.

I asked the light, "What is going on here? Please, light, clarify yourself for me. I really want to know the reality of the situation."

I cannot really say the exact words, because it was sort of telepathy. The light responded. The information transferred to me was that your beliefs shape the kind of feedback you are getting before the light. If you were a Buddhist or Catholic or Fundamentalist, you get a feedback loop of your own stuff. You have a chance to look at it and examine it, but most people do not."
Mellen-Thomas also went to a light beyond the first light:

"It seemed as if all the creations in the universe soared by me and vanished in a speck of light. Almost immediately, a second light appeared. It came from all sides, and was so different; a light made up of more than every frequency in the universe.

My consciousness, or being, was expanding to interface with the entire holographic universe and more.

As I passed into the second light, the awareness came to me that I had just transcended the truth. Those are the best words I have for it, but I will try to explain. As I passed into the second light, I expanded beyond the first light. I found myself in a profound stillness, beyond all silence. I could see or perceive FOREVER, beyond infinity. I was in the void. I was in pre-creation, before the Big Bang. I had crossed over the beginning of time - the first word - the first vibration. I was in the eye of creation. I felt as if I was touching the face of God. It was not a religious feeling. Simply I was at one with absolute life and consciousness.

It took me years after I returned to assimilate any words at all for the void experience. I can tell you this now; the void is less than nothing, yet more than everything that is! The void is absolute zero; chaos forming all possibilities. It is absolute consciousness; much more than even universal intelligence. "


Here is an interesting post I found on Reddit called "I saw the white light of death": "I was projecting out of body and saw myself being pulled towards this huge and brilliant looking white light. As I came closer I heard a voice say "you are passing over to the afterlife". I am experienced being outside of the body so I was able to stop and move away from the light. The light and voice stopped. At that point I slowly moved forward and the light and voice began again in the exact same fashion. I pulled back and repeated this scenario a few times. It is definitely a looping computer file. Most people are very confused at death, and it is a very impressive display that certainly tricks everyone, even though it is a Computer Simulated event."
I think this NDE-Like experience that was posted at oberf.org accurately summarizes the NDE in that it is our consciousness trying to make sense of what is information of a higher level and so the mind fills in the unassimilated information of the formless or pure mathematics and geomoetry into symbolism or a form we can better understand to make us feel comfortable.

"Our souls have the uncanny ability to manifest themselves in ways to appear to freshly passed souls as something familiar. This allows us to feel comfortable when we are the most confused about what is happening to us. I believe this explains the tunnel, the bright light, the overwhelming feeling of unconditional love, the seeing of "dead" relatives and things of that nature. This is done only to calm our souls after the transition and only until we "remember". Our souls have taken this journey many many times and the newer a soul is, the longer it takes them to make the transition from body to soul. I was aware during my experience that I was in fact, a very old soul. I've lived millions of existences and died many different ways and have made the transition so many times that I didn't need to be "welcomed" like many others need to be in order to feel comfortable. Like I stated before, it was like I had forgotten my keys. " -- Kurt G,NDELike


Finally, this NDE is the anomoly of all anomolies. Fred B had a series of NDEs while using ketamine. Each time he was able to see further into the experience until he was able to see through the illusion and realized he was sitting in a moving chair and part of a cinema or theatre production being cheered on. And beings were calling him a 'cheater' for using his methods:

http://www.nderf.org/NDERF/NDE_Experiences/fred_b_ketamine.htm


" It all began the same way: brain waves being altered by the effect of ketamine on temporal lobes - I could feel the effect of changing brain waves and electricity patterns being modified, almost like when you change a radio dial.

The second phase would be the hallucination part: images of religions (although I'm a atheist), I would see images of God, clouds, paradise. This 'phase' would be accompanied by a warmth-calming sensation. The light would be pink/fluorescent white and the air would be more like a solid/water/gel substance.

The third phase would see this hallucination disappear. It would dissolve. I would now feel 'normal' again, as if I was on Earth, with a human body. I would be in a dark (black) holding area, usually sitting in what seemed like a tunnel-shaped cinema. There would be light at the end of the tunnel-shaped room. I would start hearing humming and feeling a loud-deep vibration all around me. The chair would then move towards the light (almost like a convoy that you see in some amusement parks). The light would get closer. On my way down the corridor, there would be video images* projected on each side of the wall captured throughout my life and shown to me as the chair is moved down the corridor. *

Every time I've experienced this experiences, the video would show the same images from one experience to the other.

From what I understand while sitting on that moving chair, is that the significant events in my life in Earth are being showed to me, as a reminder of what just happened. In the first 3 experiences, I wouldn't distinguish the 'television/cinema' setting, nor the fact that I was in a room. I was too overwhelmed by these images of my life. The sound was actually really intense: as if it was injected through my brain, not produced by a speaker. After the 4th experiences, I started looking around and that's when I noticed the surroundings.

The fourth phase happens at the end of the corridor. When this mechanical/multimedia process is over, the light at the end of the tunnel becomes brighter and brighter. I remember being impregnated by the light at first, transported by the louder humming sound. After 5 experiences, I realized that the light was simply coming from an opening in the dark wall, leading to a long brightly lit spiral corridor. It was the contrast between being in the dark vs. walking in a bright surrounding that made me feel overwhelmed by the light.

The fifth phase would happen after my eyes had adjusted to the light. I would be transported (usually still in a chair or lying on an hospital bed towards the 7-10 experiences) down this spiral corridor. I would then realize that the humming sound was coming for a cheering crowd of thousands of people in what seemed like a stadium, on top or besides where I was. The vibration would be caused by the clapping of the hands and tapping of the feet, as if the crowd was waiting for me - a kind of homecoming celebration. In that corridor, some staff/scientists would be walking beside me, smiling and proud of my accomplishment. It seems that life on planet Earth is a 'passage' and that I was coming back home. These faces wouldn't look familiar to me but they always seemed happy and proud to see me back - whilst in experiences 1 to 6

The sixth and final phase would then happen. I would be welcomed as a hero in the middle of a giant open-air stadium with approx 90 000 spectators. Loud music would be playing while I was wheeled on stage. I remember then feeling totally immerse in the experience, as if my body on Earth didn't exist anymore. (I was able to analyze that kind of information after 5 experiences). People that I knew on Earth: parents, friends, coworkers, would be waiting for me on stage. They would all be happy to see me again. Giant screens would show images of my life on Earth - as if these people were also watching my progression on Earth while I was there. And then, the same thing would happen. As the ketamine in my system worn down (I wasn't able to administrate an extra dose while in experiences experience without stopping it), I would feel my body (on stage in the stadium) dissolve and 'melt'. In the 1-6 experiences, I could see people in the stadium becoming horrified or sad. I would hear voices saying 'we don't know what's happening'. In the 7+ experiences, I would come back to the same dark room but I would be wheeled down the spiral corridor. There would be no humming or cheering. I would be sent down in a backstage area where people (staff, employees?) would be ushering my body in an open space. I would hear the words 'cheater' being pronounced by some of them. In the 10th experiences, I was send to the same holding room. My parents were present - crying and saying that I shouldn't have artificially induced this 'transition' process, that I cheated and that this was the last time we could see each other. I would then see all the stage equipment being dismantled and was left alone. I remember seeing a newscast on a TV screen besides me where 2 anchors (that I know here in Quebec) announce that I was officially off 'my mission', that the program had been discontinued and that I would never come back to that area. There was an argument about how the rest of my Earth life would be 'not so bad' because when I first left for my mission, 'I had choose a good and comfortable planet'. My body then dissolved back....

the light at the end of the tunnel becomes brighter and brighter. I remember being impregnated by the light at first, transported by the louder humming sound. After the fifth experiences, I realized that the light was simply coming from an opening in the dark wall, leading to a long brightly lit spiral corridor. It was the contrast between being in the dark vs. walking in a bright surrounding that made me feel overwhelmed by the light.

We exist somewhere in a system where humans have a purpose to produce energy. We are connected to a 'Matrix' computer to artificially create universes within our brains and therefore produce energy to power a system. For what? I didn't get to see it. The more 'copies' of yourself you produce within the Matrix, the more energy you produce.

An afterlife definitely exists Yes We are sent on Earth for some reason. People in this alternate universe are watching our lie on Earth, as we would watch a reality television show. This mission on Earth lasts shorter than our life in the alternate universe because time is different. After multiple Near Death Experience, I was able to 'explore' deeper and deeper into the ramification of it all. I could see that we exist in many many copies in many universes. But the origin of it all would be a great laboratory, somewhere in a mountain setting, where humans would be sleeping in little boxes, connected to a 'matrix' kind of system, to produce energy.

Another fascinating experience was reported by Gary who saw lots of technology in the place he went to and that when he saw the movie The Matrix he had to get up and leave because it was so eerily reminiscent of his NDE. He writes, "People should be studying NDE's and finding out why we're trapped in these inferior bodies." On his form he was asked the question "What could a national organization with an interest in near death experience (NDE) do that would be of interest to you?" He pleaded, "Find out what is happening."


I remember the Angel telling me that it was here to help teach me things. I had a strong need to test this spirit to make sure that it was a good Angel sent by God. I asked the Spirit 'Do you love the Holy Spirit?' The Angel Just Smiled with a pause, looking at me quietly. I then had this rush of overwhelming, strong, loving energy go right through my Soul/Spirit. I knew straight away that It was the Holy Spirit confirming to me that it was one of God's Divine Angels sent by him. -- Brad N

[Note: The parasite did not lie... by not answering. So it used the artificial beam of love to blast any doubt away.]
This time I found myself in a large hall with angels around me and they seemed to be attempting to ease my pain and trying to make me feel warm, welcome and comfortable... -- Robert N
My main reason for staying was because I didn’t want to let God down. I wanted to finish the job I had come here to do. I wanted to show Him that I’m not a quitter. I also wanted to live on this Earth knowing God loved me. I felt like I had no other choice than to stay. I replied, almost in a whisper and very, very reluctantly, “I really want to go with you …but I have to stay.” -- Mary W
They told me I would return to earth to teach others not to fear life or death. Once this is accomplished there will be peace on earth. -- Lisa H


Afterwards, a voice asked me: you can choose to die or return to live on the earth. Which do you choose? I hesitated for a few seconds because life on earth seemed far too painful. There was even a countdown. Time was running out and I realized that if I didn't decide rapidly, I wouldn't have a second chance to return to earth. I decided to continue living. I gathered all my strength, all my focus and energy to return. -- MB
They both laughed and with assured me 'No, no it is not yet your time.' I replied, 'What do you mean it is not yet my time?' They turned the book so I could see it, and they opened it up. I saw that there were three columns of names on each page of the book from top to bottom. The man in front pointed and scanned the page of the book they were referring to. They reiterated, 'It is not yet your time. Here is today's time and you are not listed here.' Then he flipped back farther in the book where there was only about an eighth of an inch of pages left in the book and said, 'This is your time,' as they pointed at my name in the book. I had many thoughts at that time, that I was supposed to be in heaven close to the end of the time when names were to be written in the book. Maybe it was not the end of time but just the end of names in the book. I understood that I was loved and I would be back.

I told them, 'But I am here now' and that, 'I wanted to stay.' They replied, 'You must go back. You are a part of God's plan, and if you stay here now, this is all there will be for you,' as they pointed deeper in the place where I was. I replied, 'What do you mean this is all there will be? Do you mean there is a place better than this one?' They replied, 'It depends on your works on earth but we cannot send you back.' I asked, 'What do you mean I am a part of God's plan and I must go back and you cannot send me back?' They said, 'We will take you to God. He will know what to do.'

The two took me to a place where God was. He was sitting in a higher place in heaven. As they lifted me up towards him... God put his hand on my head. He was able to see everything and feel everything that I had done in my life. He saw if I was sorry for the bad things I had done, how I felt in my heart at the time I had done things, how I felt afterwards, and whether or not I apologized or made the bad things right. He also saw all of the good I had done in my life and whether or not I was truly good or if I was doing good things to get something, and how I truly felt at the time. He weighed the good and the bad in my life and said, 'Yes you are good.' He then said, 'You are a part of my plan.'... God then told me, 'You can stay, but I want you to go back because you are a part of my plan.' I asked 'What do you mean I am a part of your plan?' It was then shown what my part of God's plan was and how each of us affect all those around us. I was shown that there is a reaction to all our interactions, like a domino-effect of good or bad. I was made to understand that if I stayed there, that God would have to change millions of events in order to make his plan work because I would not be there to make it happen. I told God, 'I will go back for you if it is a part of your plan (which I had a complete understanding of at the time) but if I go back, can you fix my neck? Not for me, but for my son so that he does not have to take care of me? It is bad enough that his mother is gone.' God agreed, and said 'You will not be allowed to remember and keep all of the knowledge you have gained here because mankind will not understand, nor can they know what my plan is for now.'

With that said and understood, God took me back to my body. -- William R
Below is the summary of the instances of NDE stories where experiencers were told “It’s not your time yet.” and closely related phrases from non-European, non-English speaking countries between 1998 and 2022 from the NDERF website which were labelled NDE experiences (excluding Possible NDE, Probable NDE, etc.). The focus on these countries was due to the possibility that hearing such phrases may be due in part to linguistic or cultural influences. All NDE accounts from non-European, non-English speaking countries among the top 150 countries in total population were considered, as of February 1, 2023. In total, 252 total stories were found that met these criteria. I found that there were 28 instances of experiencers being told that it was“not their time yet” or only slight deviations from this phrase (such as being told “it’s not your time”, “it’s not yet your time”, “not yet”, or reporting being told that it’s “not my moment”), which amounts to roughly 11.1% of experiences. Allowing a slightly larger deviation from this base phrase (such as “He kept saying that I shouldn't get in - that he would come back for me at the right time, not now.”) yields a total of 32 stories, or roughly 12.7% of all such experiences.

https://www.nderf.org/NDERF/Research/not_ur_time.pdf

Here are some examples from the NDERF article:

• Chen C: “Then I saw people whom I did not recognized, and they told me it wasn’t my time yet, so I needed to go back. Next, a light appeared and instantly, I was back in the hospital.”
• Decent Man: “I was very frightened when these two husky guys pull me aside so far to a place where no one was there. They said, “It is not your time yet, go back now.””
• Lee Shi: “Two men came over to her saying fiercely, 'It is not your time yet, go back!' Then she regained consciousness.”
• Anonymous: “Then I asked if and when I could come back here. She told me to wait for the right time so could come back again.”
Ashutosh S: “When I followed the voice that said, ‘you need to go back, your time hasn't come as yet,’ I gained consciousness.”
Az: “He said I was going to take you but I was told it is not the time.”
• Dr. Sahar S: “I asked, 'Why don't you let me in?' The man in front of me said, 'Look at all these people that have been standing here for hours. It is not your turn yet. Go, sit down, and they will call you.' This conversation between me and him was not like usual conversations. It is hard to explain. It was like an emotional understanding without saying any words.
• Bernadette B: “As I entered the gate I heard a voice telling me ' Go back, Bernardette (not the name I use but Bernardita). It is not time yet.’”
• Steve T: “I saw my father, who had died some 20 years before, and felt others I knew were all standing around further back behind him. My father walked towards me and said, 'Son it's not your time, you'll have to go back.’”

• Wan I: “…the picture of my grandpa in his late twenties looked exactly like the young man whom I met in the light and had smiled at me. I guess he was saying stop, because it wasn't my time yet.”

Dr. M. Ghalabi: “I was ordered to go back. I was told it was not yet my time that I had to go back to where I came from. I returned to life, sad, and in pain.”Peter S: “I don't know if it is male or female, but it very friendly. This person told me, 'You have to go back, because you need to do a lot for the people, it is not yet time to come here.'“

Gulden: “Meantime, I saw my uncle, who died one month ago, while passing me he said, 'Not yet.Nolwenn: “She didn't open her mouth and made no ound, but transmitted a message directly through thought. She made me understand that it was not my moment; I had to return to Earth and join my ody.”
Israel: “Observing him carefully, I realized that he was made out of light...Then, all of a sudden, he commanded with a loving voice,
"You must go back. It is not your time yet. There are many duties you must complete... you will be back here in due time. Now prepare yourself to go back."
Doris: “They were all dressed beautifully in clothing like large angels. All of a sudden, a voice told me to go back; it's not your time yet.“
• Andy B: I told her 'Tell him [referring to God] to let me stay here, I do not want to go back, please!' She repeated to me, 'You have to go back; this is not your time.'”
• Maria G: “As I entered into the light, I heard someone calling my name. The voice was full of tenderness saying, 'It is not your time. You have two children who need you. You must go back.' “
• Tom M: “My dead sister and grandmother told me that it was not yet my time and that I must get back.”
• Lilith W: “He smiled at me and I smiled at him and asked him if he had come for me. He said 'No', and that he was just there to talk with me. He said he was charged with telling me it was still not my time, and that I had to go back because I was needed and that my questions would be answered in due course.”
• Martin: “Suddenly in the fog, I could see a lighter little dot in front of me and it attracted me. At that moment, I decided to advance; I hear a masculine voice over my right shoulder that tells me ‘Not yet’ and touches my shoulder.”
Joon O: “And with his other hand pointing to the scene of the accident, he said, 'It’s not your time to come here yet. Go back there and help a lot of people, and then come back!'”
Maria SV: “The light opens our consciousness and was at the end of tunnel. The light had a telepathic voice that connected with my heart. That same voice told me it wasn't my time. “
• Mateo: “I felt that I was in my body but I could not move, and far off I could see a little light. Something told me I should follow it. I followed it until it got brighter and brighter, and then something told me that it was not my time and that I had to go back.“
• Rosa D: “Many beings were there, and I felt their happiness on seeing me. My grandfather and my godfather told me I must be strong, as it was not yet my time, and I couldn't join them.”
• Dario F: “I clarified that I was a married man and that I had a four-year old daughter. I heard a voice telling me: 'It is not your time; it is not your time'.”
• Alejandra M: “ I also remember feeling a sensation of peace, welfare and happiness beyond description. It was as if I belonged to that place. Suddenly, the voice of my conscience told me that it was not my time yet and that I had to return.”
• Lorena S: “However, he did not let me in and I was not ready to hear that. I just wanted to get in, but he kept saying no. He kept saying that I shouldn't get in - that he would come back for me at the right time, not now.

Ahly S: “I remember looking at all the billions and billions of stars. I looked at myself and I was a star too. At that moment, I heard a soft voice telling me, 'It is not your time yet.'”
• Karen G: “a voice told me (a voice coming from behind me), 'Not yet. It is not your moment yet.'”
• Giselle RV: “They told me that it was not my time but that due to a medical mistake I arrived home once again. I still had a lot do and to learn but under no circumstance did I want to return to earth.”
Marisol HF: “A venerable man dressed in white came near to me and said, 'Daughter, NO. It is not your time yet. You have to go back. There are things left for you to accomplish.'”


In a conscious thought I was about to take a step, when my deceased father and grandmother both said to me, 'It's not your time, not yet. You have to go back.' I could see and hear them both in one voice and in their own voices together. It is hard to explain that one in earthly language. I said, 'No, I want to stay here with you.' They each placed a hand on my shoulder and I looked into the eyes of Christ for a brief moment as he was suddenly there. He was not saying, but instilling in me, the thought that 'everything will be okay' and a feeling of 'we will meet again soon.'

Suddenly, I was awake on the operating table. -- Missy M
I saw my grandmother, running with children, towards me. She took me by the hand and we were at the beginning of a bridge over a small creek. We talked for what seemed like hours about my life since she had died. I had just turned 9 years old when she died. We also talked about when she came to let me know that she died, to say goodbye until we would meet again and not to be sad. She was so vibrant and healthy, despite dying of a brain tumor. I told her how much I missed her and she said that she watches over my son and me. She then said something unexpected to me, 'You have to go back, it is not your time, yet.' She also said that a ‘blink of an eye could be 80 years’ in our time but that time was man-made. ‘There is no time here.’ I understood what she meant. I said that I wanted to stay and she said ‘it is not your time’. All of the sudden, I was falling back through the tunnel; the light was getting further away. -- Wendy G
While I was looking around and getting know the place, suddenly I heard a man's voice saying to me, 'You need to go back. Your time has not yet come!' I didn't see who was talking to me, but I felt his voice echoing deep down inside my body. Right away, I was back on Earth where my body was. When I saw my body with bubbles coming out of it, I knew what had happened. -- Kadri M
After the review, I was led to another marble room where there was a huge open book on a marble table. My guide sat behind the table and with his index finger pointed in the book, he scanned through the page to see if he found my name on the book. His head lifted up and looked at me, a wave of guilt overwhelmed me. I did something very, very wrong. No one had to judge me. I judged myself and knew I did wrong. My guide spoke to me through my mind and I was shown a picture through a cloud of my mother dead in the center of the floor with my father, brother and sister crying around her. He told me it was not my time and that I had to go back for her. After what was shown to me, I went down very quickly and found myself in the hospital room with doctors and nurses working on me. -- Carman D
I was happy, so happy, and I had an indescribable peace. I was in a state of extreme joy when suddenly I hear a very strong VOICE, powerful and omnipotent, that told me that I had to go back. I did not want to go back, but this VOICE was so powerful that it was impossible not to obey the order, 'You must return to life. You still have three missions to complete.' I began to feel that, from a stillness in which I found myself, I was now traveling quickly; I was 'returning' to life. Then, I manage to ask, 'What missions do I have?', and it answered me question by question. Then I return to life, and the pain that was just as bad, and the physical drama. -- Malena S
After my review, they told me I had to go back my mission in life was not complete. I had to be convinced and reassured I would come back someday. I did not want to return to my awful life. -- Helen D
That person was Jesus! I was sure it was him! He had light brown, almost blond hair, a red tunic, something like a sky-blue cape and he was wearing mustard-color men's sandals. He was not barefoot.

I started to get closer, and I felt so happy to see him! We stood facing each other and he extended his right hand toward me while holding the bundle in his left. I stretched out my own hand so he would take me with him. He stopped me by signaling with his hand. Without speaking, he communicated to me that it was not my time yet. He let me know that I have a mission on earth. -- Rosa M
Then I became aware of the blackness. It was as if I was in a place of tremendous energy; a great black void, but I was not fearful. The void held me in calm and peace. I knew I had died to the world but I had not lost consciousness for even a second. I was still me and still alive.

Then I was with Him and enveloped in such a great light and love it defies description. There I rested in joy, bliss and grace. He spoke to me, telling me that it was not my time and that I needed to return to my body, to complete my life's mission. I did not respond to His remark, but instead asked Him how he had done that? He spoke to me without words, without a voice, and yet I had clearly heard and understood every unspoken word! He said to me that I was in a different ‘place’, one in which communication was purely exchanged through the language of love. Here everyone spoke heart to heart and soul to soul so that there could never be a misunderstanding. When I had been on Earth and used the spoken word there had often been great confusion as to what I thought I had said and what had been heard by my listener, they were often very different.

He then reminded me again that it was not my time and that I needed to return to my body and resume my earth life. Then I reminded Him that He had promised me free agency, and I was choosing to exercise that agency to stay with Him. He laughed with great joy and mirth at my stubbornness, saying, ‘Yes, Laura, I would expect you to argue for your own case. The decision will of course be yours! But first let me show you some things.’ I was suddenly struck with wonderment and awe. He knew me. Everything about me was already known. I was part of his creation and in me was the spark of God; it could not be otherwise. He was all knowing, he was all love, and I was a part of it all.

Before me, there suddenly appeared a pristine beautiful white glistening beach. I saw my three oldest sons sitting together on that beach. Individually, I saw many parts of their future lives. I saw their struggles and their hardships. I saw how my death would add to their hardships; sadness, loneliness, and anger seemed often to surround them. Then I saw the contrast I, as a Mother, would be in their lives. Their paths were lightened because of my love for them.

But still I could not imagine leaving Him; being apart From His love. So I pointed out the beach to Him, each single grain of sand and how there were millions of them. Surely, one small grain of sand in all of creation would not be so missed. Besides, they had a father, a wonderful loving father, to care for them and teach them, care for them and love them. Also, I had realized at that point that time was different and did not really matter. After all, as a mortal how do you understand forever or eternity or no end? Life may appear long, hard and dreary but really it was a flash, equal to one grain of sand on that expansive beach. He brought my focus back to the beach explaining, 'Notice again the beach and every individual grain of sand. Notice how each grain touches every other grain. If every individual gain of sand chose to remove itself, there would be no beach. I got it on all levels instantly! No one could replace me. No one was in fact replaceable, ever. Everyone must contribute their own unique part of the beach.

Suddenly, it dawned on me that I had only witnessed the lives of three of my sons. 'Where is my baby,' I asked? Why is he separated from his brothers? 'He is younger; he will be raised differently.' was the reply. That cannot be I said. His father would not let that happen. His father will not be with him long, I was given to understand; he will not have the influence on him as he does on your other sons. At this point, I witnessed a future event in the life of my husband, an accident in which he would lose his life. I did not bring this memory back with me, but somewhere in the corner of my mind, it remained. I would remember it vividly four years later as my husband lay dying.

And there was still more for me to understand. The focus again fell on my infant son and hundreds if not thousands of my ancestors. I was aware of light surrounding many of them. They stood out. I felt tremendous love from them. 'Notice,' He said, 'your ancestors, all these beings, came together in your behalf, to make you uniquely you. I realized in Earth words He was referring to my DNA. 'You wanted to go to Earth to learn, to progress, and to contribute to creation. All these spirits came together to help you do that.' The focus then was back to my baby. 'In all of creation,' he said, 'your infant son chose you to be his mother, none other. Together,' he said, 'you made a covenant to fill these rolls in each other's Earth life. This covenant is and was a very sacred covenant not to be taken lightly.' Suddenly I could not wait to return to earth, to my sons, all 4 of them, to my family, to life on Earth. But, before doing so, I was brought to another level of awareness.

It was as if when I was focused on Him that was my complete and only awareness. But, when changing focus, such as on the beach, l saw much more. My life flashed before me; a life review was in order. When it was over, my head was hung in shame for he had seen it too. I was not happy about many, many of my actions. Then, in awe, I turned to him asking, ‘how can you still love me so completely after witnessing my many sins?' 'You are a child of God', He said, 'and God Is Love. I see you purely as Love.' There Was no judgment only love coming from Him. In order for me to understand this however I needed to forgive myself and realize that I was a part of divine love. Through the Atonement, this was made possible. It's very difficult to explain. I only know I remember nothing that I saw in my life review; only the memory of having one remains and also of the love! My surroundings were then brought into focus as I became aware of a flower, a magnificent flower. It was rather like a perfect Gerber daisy glowing in brilliant orange hued colors, it was alive, and it loved me! In Amazement, I turned again to Him in wonderment and awe, exclaiming, 'This flower loves me. I can feel it.' 'Everything,' He said 'was made in love for you!'

Then I saw and felt all. It was me and I was it; the firmament with colors alive and loving, stunning colors of light and water, each drop alive and loving; no word, no words!

Now it really was time to return but first I had one more question. 'Why me,' I asked, 'what made me so special that I was allowed to have this happen to me?’ 'Nothing,' He said, 'love falls on everyone equally; everyone is special. This was just something you needed to accomplish your chosen life mission.'

I was almost ready to return but first I needed to secure a promise that I could soon return to Him. Again, I felt his great mirth; his tremendous love for me and his complete knowing of me, because you see there really is no other option! We all return. He did then remind me that the only thing I would get to bring back with me was love; the love I gave away.'

When I left my body and was told it was not my time and that I needed to return; from that instant until I agreed to ‘come back’ the entire experience happened at a different level of consciousness. -- Laura M
Then I encountered some very tall male beings with a long beards and robes. They were all white. Everything was white, including me. I was a whispery fog, like, with no feet and no ground. Nothing was solid. The beings were strong and intense. I don't know if it was fear I felt, but I was not going to challenge or question anything coming from them. We did discuss my past. We agreed I would have the accident, and I would be ok and would go back. They told me I had to go back anyway, and that I had to do what I was meant to do. They said I was on the wrong path. But they never told me what my right path was and, truthfully, I still don't have a solid concept of what it is. I just follow, day to day, what is next within me. Many times, I wish they gave me a definite path; it would be a lot easier to stay on task. -- Sheryl
I felt this was source of God. I told him that I wasn't going back. He told me, 'That’s too bad because your life is just about to get started.' I said, 'I don't believe you whatsoever.' He explained that I had agreed to take on so many distressing experiences that were related to so many different people. I remembered that from my childhood thoughts, so I thought that was believable, so I told him that 'I think I took on too much.' He said, ' I did have concerns about your plan to undergo all that, but you had freewill.' I said, 'I give up.' He told me that I had a choice to abort the mission but that would mean I'd have to relive the whole first part of my life all over again because consciousness is erased in birth. I thought, 'That wasn’t fair.' But, that information made my choice more difficult.

I felt manipulated into saying I’d come back, but I wanted to alter my contract. I told him that if it didn’t get better FAST, I’d be visiting him again very soon. He promised that I wouldn’t want to do that. I dared him to try me, because he better prove it to me fast.

First, I wanted my depression and eating disorder to be taken away because nothing will change if that was there. He said, 'O.K. no more of that, BUT there will be a couple years where you will need to recover from this event.' He showed me my future self; that I would be working my life passion until death, like a mini-version of Oprah, that I would be happy and charitable and comfortable, though not rich.

I said I wanted more comforts. He said my soul didn't care about that before. I reminded him that I am altering my contract because I am NOT returning without this promise that people will want to learn from my experience and find solace in my compassionate and giving nature.

I returned extremely angry. -- Kyah
From "God Revealed To Me Why We Exist During My NDE (It's Not What You Think)"

As I went higher, I saw a bright light... was the most beautiful thing I've ever seen. It was like the Sun, but it didn't hurt my eyes. I felt drawn to it like a magnet pulling me. I moved towards the light. As I got closer, I saw someone standing in it. It was a man. He was tall and had kind eyes. He was glowing with a soft white light. I knew right away it was Jesus... I had so many questions but the first thing that came out was: 'Lord, what is the real purpose for mankind?' Jesus looked at me with eyes full of wisdom, said, 'Zoe, the real purpose for mankind is to know God, to love Him and to share His love with others to grow in faith and become more like Me every day.'

I thought about this. It seems so simple, but also so big. Jesus went on. 'Every person is special to God. He made each one with a plan. Your job is to find that plan and live it out. I asked, 'But how do we do that? The world is so confusing sometimes.' Jesus nodded. 'It can be hard. That's why I gave you the Bible. It's like a map to help you and I sent the Holy Spirit to guide you. When you pray and listen, you'll hear God's voice in your heart.'

As we talked I saw scenes from my life. I saw times when I helped others. I felt Joy when I saw these, but I also saw times when I had been selfish or unkind. I felt sad about them. Jesus touched my shoulder. 'Don't be sad, Zoe. Everyone makes mistakes. What matters is that you learn from them and try to do better.' I nodded feeling better. Then I asked, 'Why is there so much suffering in the world? God loves us. Why does he let bad things happen?' Jesus looked sad for a moment. 'Suffering comes from sin in the world. It's not what God wanted, but He gave people free will. Sometimes they use it to hurt others or themselves, but God can use even bad things to teach us and make us stronger.

I thought about the car crash. 'Is that why I'm here now: to learn something?' Jesus smiled. 'Yes, partly, but also to remind you how much God loves you, to give you a message to share when you go back. I was confused. 'Go back? You mean I'm not staying here?' Jesus shook his head. 'Not yet, Zoe. You have more to do on Earth. Your purpose isn't finished.' I felt a little sad. This place was so wonderful, but I also felt excited to have another chance to live. Jesus said, 'Remember, Zoe: Love God with all your heart. Love others as yourself. Show kindness to everyone. Forgive those who hurt you. Help those in need. These are the ways to live out your purpose.' -- Zoe Winterbrook
I literally felt what seemed like a deep thunder. It was a voice that I felt both in and outside of my head tell me authoritatively that, 'I am with you. You can do this; do not step out of your place.' I started crying and hyperventilating. All I know is right after that, I feel like I left my body for the second time in my life. I recognized going through the ceiling and going through space as I passed the stars. But this time when I saw that darkness and the distance, I avoided it. I called out for Jesus again. I saw Jesus as the beautiful, bright familiar light of love again but this time behind him, there was a new presence I had never seen before. The presence filled the entire space or sky around us. It was like a horizon of spirit that was so gargantuan, like Jesus Christ times 20 billion. It was God! God the Father, told me in Strict terms that I cannot escape my body again, that I will finish my job on earth. This was not just for his glory but for my own spiritual state. He said that if I ever try to commit suicide again, that he has the power to intervene and send one of his other children to stop me or make any other suicide attempt fail. I was a little scared and very sad, and a bit ashamed.

I cried out to him like I never have before, 'What can I do? I have no family to help me. I feel so alone.' Almighty God then said to me in a booming voice, but in a very loving way without hurting me, 'You have not been alone for even one moment in your entire life. I have been there ready to be with you as soon as you reach for me; as soon as you ask for me. I have also worked through my gift to you of Jesus Christ. I love you and you are my child. I will say it again so you will remember, 'YOU ARE MY CHILD AND I LOVE YOU.'

God showed me something like a movie. He showed me how much I’ve grown spiritually, even though I may not know it yet. God told me that he’s proud of me and that I am almost finished. He said that if I can just complete my work here, all of my eternity will be filled with the love and peace that I need. I apologized to God and told him that I will do my best and that I will try to remind myself that this suffering in this life and in my body will all be forgotten when I will be allowed to stay in heaven. Both God and Jesus reassured me that I will absolutely go to heaven because that it is my destiny. When I’m finished with my spiritual journey and I’ve completed my work for God, then I will fit perfectly into God's mighty puzzle. -- Ashli
Then you go to this colosseum/court room place. Everything's telepathic.(didn't know that at the time) The whole place was %100 filled up. I had some detractors but a lot more people on my side. I remember feeling like I didn't deserve to win. The person defending me was doing it like his life depended on it. Felt like I had the best lawyer in the whole universe. Every bad thing that was brought against me, he would expertly tear apart and strike down. It's a long process actually. I think I just decided like if this how the afterlife is with this court shit just send me back. So yeah I got little gas light.Also got rushed...yeah I couldn't really read the contract(which you can use to defend yourself as a loophole next go around) I did agree to it though and they know that. So that's why they kinda rush ya. For them it's like you already agreed to this let's goooooooo. I got memory wiped(guess not fully)

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I spoke with God and at one point my life seemed to play out very fast. I was praised for certain actions that were good. I had the feeling there was more I could do and it would be easy for me to do this. One person there in a joking way tried to trick me into thinking they were God. Then God played along and said if that were true than they would have known a very special event would happen in the future. I saw the trickster again at a later time and then the special event happened. It was a great miracle but I didn't really understand what it was and right after it, I knew who the true God was. -- Michael F, Probable NDE
I believe that loosh, an energetic energy mostly made from suffering, is created here on this earth. Its purpose to feed another energetic being.

I am now reading the Michael Newton book about lives between lives where regressed people say they must reincarnate to learn lessons. Sometimes it seems to me that they are cajoled into consent to come here and suffer. Many souls who suffer in past lives report that they suffer even more because they cannot come to terms with what happened to them. Some then go into healing areas after which they are ready for more 'lessons'. Many NDEers who do not want to come back are forced to. Thus, my belief in loosh. The big question is why do we need to learn anything if we are part of a perfect God? -- Helena S (SDE, shared death eexperience)